How to Teach STEAM and SEL Using “Peter O Meter” with Tricia Fuglestad [episode 103]

Tricia Fuglestad- How to teach STEAM and SEL using "Peter O Meter"

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We have a very special episode for you today that’s all about how to teach STEAM and SEL! But! It’s not exactly what you’d expect. We’re talking with special guest and author Tricia Fuglestad all about her new book Peter O’ Meter and how to teach STEAM and SEL using augmented reality.

Tricia Fuglestad is a national board-certified elementary art teacher with 30 years of experience. She is also an author, illustrator, and animator, with a master’s degree in K-12 tech integration. She has successfully blended digital and physical art techniques in her transdigital lessons. Her newest book Peter O’ Meter teaches STEAM and SEL using a blend of traditional books and augmented reality.

Tricia shares how her background as an art teacher inspired her to create a book that teaches social-emotional learning and STEAM concepts through the story of a robot named Peter.  We dive into the details of the unique augmented reality elements in the book including 3D character models and animated page scans. 

We also learn how teachers can use Peter O’Meter and the accompanying free activity packet to check in on students’ feelings, teach circuits, science vocabulary, and more. 

Whether you’re looking for new ideas on how to teach STEAM and SEL or just want to hear exciting ideas on cutting-edge teaching techniques, you’re not going to want to miss this episode. There’s so much educational potential with Peter O’Meter that can be experienced in new ways each time you and your students read it. Check it out!

Key points on how to teach STEAM and SEL:

  • Tricia Fuglestad’s new book “Peter O’Meter: An Interactive Augmented Reality SEL Children’s Book”
  • How to teach STEAM and SEL with Peter O’Meter
  • The benefits of using augmented reality to teach STEAM and SEL
  • How Trisha drew inspiration from her students and retro-futurism art in illustrating the robot world of the book
  • The inspiration behind Peter O’Meter: An Interactive Augmented Reality SEL Children’s Book
  • Tricia’s writing and creative process

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Read the transcript for episode 103, How to Teach STEAM and SEL using “Peter O Meter” with Tricia Fuglestad:

Kelsey  0:00

You are listening to Episode 103 of wife teacher mommy the podcast how to teach steam and social emotional learning using Peter O’Meara with Trisha fugle stet. I’m so excited for this interview with author Tricia fugle Stein we are talking all about her brand new release Piero meter. And trust me it is unlike any children’s book I’ve ever seen. And I’m so excited to use it with my kids this year and she has tons of free activities for you so let’s go


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Welcome to wife, teacher, mommy the podcast. I’m Kelsey Sorenson, a former elementary teacher and current homeschool mom. And even though I’ve been a resource creator since 2014, I’ve realized that printables alone aren’t all you need in order to thrive as a teacher or homeschool parent. That’s why I also created this show and got certified as a life coach to help you finally kick burnout to the curb and feel competent with whatever challenges come your way. With the right mindset strategies and new teaching inspiration, you’re going to be well on your way to your best teacher life. Now let’s go


Hello, friends, I’m so excited to be chatting with author Tricia fugle stead today, she has just released her new book, Peter Oh meter. And she did it with teacher goes publishing, who’s the publisher that I’ve just signed with as well. So it was really fun to talk with her about her writing process and getting her book out there because I feel like she’s just a bit ahead of where I’m going to be with my book coming up here soon. And before we dive in to more about her book, I want to share a little bit about how I’m so excited to start writing this book. I turned in my outline, and I got feedback from my editor. And I’m just really excited with the direction the book is headed and all the things that you’re going to learn from it. But what I want to tell you is that all the things you’re going to learn from it. But before the book comes out, I want to share some of it with you now and even more than I’ve done here on the podcast. So I’m doing a free mindset masterclass. I’ll be teaching it live a few times in the September, if you’re listening to this now on August 29. I’ll be teaching it live a few weeks in September. So I would love for you to join us. And if you’re listening later, I plan to continue doing this mindset masterclass, but you need to attend that live. So go ahead, sign up, there’s a link in the show notes, I would love for you to join, you get free resources just for joining us, there’s a giveaway. There’s tons of fun stuff, we’d love for you to come and be sure you’re on our email list. So you can always keep up with all of that too. And then the last thing I want to mention is that now that I’m writing a book, and I’m coaching our members each week, it’s a lot of content to create. And I want to make sure that the podcast continues to be top notch for all of you. So what is going to happen is every other week, starting in September will be a brand new episode, just like you’ve been getting all this time. And then on the off week, now that we have over 100 episodes, we have a huge archive of content. And my guess is you most likely have not listened to all of it. If you have listened to all of it, and we major high fives to you, I congratulate you. And I bet that you have really shifted your mindset. And a lot of ways if you’ve listened to over 100 episodes of the show like that would be so cool. But there’s a really good chance that you haven’t listened to all of them. So we’re picking some of the favorites from the archives, and airing them again on those off weeks for just the next little bit while I really get going on this book. And I’ll keep you updated once we get back to weekly new episodes. But I didn’t want to leave you hanging each week, I still want something to go out that you can listen to. So don’t write them off. Like they’re really good episodes that have aired in the past or picking ones that have like higher downloads or that people really enjoyed or that were requested topics that people didn’t realize we already had an episode for. So trust me, you’re really going to enjoy those. So every other week will be a new episode. And then on the off week, there will be an amazing replay that was handpicked by me for that week that I really think is relevant for that point in time. And this will just be temporary while I really get my bearings with this book and make sure that I can hit all the deadlines that I need to for my publisher. Okay, so let’s get to today’s interview. I’m really excited to talk with Tricia about the book Peter Oh meter. We just got our copy in the mail. I believe it was yesterday. And I read it with my kids. And actually for those of you who’ve been around a bit, you might know that


My youngest is actually named Peter. So he was very excited. He was like, Mommy, it’s about me. And on all the pages is like mom is that one me. So it was really cute. But we read through the book together, I read through it with my two youngest, my oldest was playing with a friend. But it’s just such a cute story. And the part that stood out to me the most on my first read, probably because I’m a life coach was the tie in to emotions and the fact that he has an emotion panel and that the kids, while as we’re reading, were identifying his emotions. And as a coach, that is something I love. But through this interview, I’ve learned that there’s so much more to it than that there’s a full augmented reality part of it that we haven’t utilized it. I cannot wait to check it all out. And I just talked to her about coming to our winter educating rejuvenate event, which we aren’t promoting that yet, but I’m pretty sure she’s going to join us the winter and potentially this summer event as well. So it’s going to be a lot of fun. So without further ado, let’s get into our interview with Trisha.


Tricia Fuglestad  7:10

Artificial? Yeah, I wanted every piece of it to be embedded and, you know, go with the story. I love it. And your book is so unique, where you have like the augmented reality. And I love how it has like, I don’t know, it’s very interactive in a few ways. I got my copy yesterday in the mail, which I’m super excited about. And it has like all the different like emotions, and I get to like pick which emotion would be right and then on the next page, it shows them if they got it right and everything. So we love that before we dive in too deep though, do you want to introduce yourself a little bit like tell the audience about yourself and your journey to become an author, your teaching anything else relevant that they’d like to know. So I’m Trisha fugle. Stan, I’m a K five elementary art teacher and in the classroom for 30 years. And I just began this journey of being a children’s book author, after wanting to do this, probably had been on my bucket list for at least 1520 years. And, you know, I used to host author visits in my districts and talk to the authors and illustrators and just dream of one day being able to, to do that and have the, the time and the energy. So I’m here, I’m finally seeing my dreams become reality, but not just reality, like augmented reality, which is on that piece. If you want to dive a little into like how this all started to do an augmented reality children’s book


really fits with where I was in my journey, because my students and I in elementary, you know, we had a class set of iPads, something that we worked on forever to get that class set of iPads, we had to do, you know, fundraising, and we entered contests when that I’ve had and we finally after,


like, 18 months of working on it, we got a class set of iPads. And then once we had it, I wanted to make learning on them more meaningful in the art room. So I didn’t want to take away from the physical art making experience either. So we would make art and then we do a digital extension on that art project. And many times it meant trying to make an animation that kind of went along with our work. And the more we practice this and the more we explored it, we realized what we’re doing was what we called Trans digital art where it was both physical and digital. So for example, like we made robots and then we made our move. So I Robot paintings, with digitally blue


Link and, you know, like puff for


Gears would move or switches would, you know, things would blink, whatever. And so we thought, okay, now that we figured out how to make art, how to make our move, how do we showcase it. And so we started to explore with augmented reality. So that was about


seven years ago. And we’ve found that if we can showcase our work with augmented reality, then you will be able to see the physical work and then pull up the digital experience at the same time, and just showcased it perfectly. But then I was kinda like, Okay, now,


I feel like I want to do more with this, because this is an amazing way to, like, make


art with kids, but I couldn’t figure it out. I was kind of just, it was tucked in the back of my mind, I was, you know, thinking, that is what I want to do, I could do it like on a Shutterfly book or something. So I did that a few times, like I just assembled all of their Jewish Shutterfly book, and then, you know, set up the augmented reality. And then we kind of pretended we had an augmented reality book, that I wanted to see more of that and that and make it bigger and make more people able to access it. I love that I love how resourceful you are. You’re like, I’m going to I can’t find what I need. I’m going to order this from Shutterfly I’m going to make it like, how cool is that? But yes, continue. No, I mean, it was cool. And it was really hooking my students to and empowering them. So then I started to expand, I started thinking, anything that’s already print material. If I can make an animation of that print material, then I can hook my students with that. So before we do a lesson, I would try to connect that lesson to a children’s book. And I would animate the cover of that book, and set it up with augmented reality, and then hook them in with it. Like we did that with


this, this snowman story. And we were making a digital piece of art. Based on the snowman, there’s a scene in the book where they fly with their snow friends, and they build a snowman. And then they go on a flying adventure at night. And so we recreated that scene, we did green screen video, we need the snow friends and other stuff that we layered together. But then I had animated the cover of the book, and they were like,


you know, and then they saw it come to life with augmented reality. And then anybody who has that book, could just get that code and the right app, and see that experience right off of their bookshelf, you can go to the library and see it come to life right off the shelf of the library. And the idea of that was so exciting. And so the kids all wanted to figure out how to do it, and it just kind of grew from there. And if I’m excited about something, you know, they’re gonna be excited about it, too. So I was, I was just really hooked on the idea of making physical art come to life in some way, or what that is so cool. And honestly, like, I didn’t even know this was a thing until your book, like, so cool. Because like, it’s just really new. I feel like I feel like it is really new. And actually, I don’t know another book that is experienced this way. There are books that have augmented reality. And that’s how I found out about T shirt goals. And that’s where I published my book.


I was a part of the green screen summit last summer, not this past summer, so like a little over a year ago with Erica Sandstrom. And so as a co host of the green screen Summit, we were pulling in these presenters and I was working on their bio and putting it onto the website when I realized we had somebody named Amanda Fox. And in her bio, she said that she had an augmented reality children’s book named Marco town. And I’m like, hold it. That is exactly what I would like to know about AI an augmented reality children’s event. Sounds wonderful. I need to talk to this lady. So after the green screen summon and did I set up a meeting with her and asked her Is this something I could get in on? What is this? How does it work? She sent me marker town and I saw that it had


these coloring pages in it powered by quiver vision. And so I had already been familiar with cuivre vision they had


they have this thing where they make coloring pages that come to life with a 3d model and how


Where you colored it, it stays that way on the 3d model when, and then you can interact with it in some way. So they’ve got this augmented reality piece, woven into this book macro town. And it kind of goes along with the story and adds more interactivity and actually layers on other kinds of learning into the book. And so I said, Can you just sign me up for this? I mean, I want to do this, when they’re like, well, you’re gonna actually have to come up with a story.


That’s an important part of a book, right? So like, Oh, I’ve got stories. I’ve got lots of stories. And so yeah, you know, working with students for 30 years, a lot of what I was doing was Storytime with them. And we had many things that we were turning into videos and entering them into film festivals and international children’s film festivals and local film festivals. And so we had musical stories. And most of the stories were musical, because we wanted to sing Oliver curricular content is basically what it is. So the kids were singing and dancing and, and telling stories. And I feel like I could have, you know, approached them with any one of those as my book pitch. And so as I was doing this, they looked over my shoulder in my room, and they saw my robots that I had painted and put on the walls. And they’re like, What are those robots? Tell us about them? Like, oh, okay, well, those are my emotional robots that I painted. They each represent, like a different color on the color wheel. And they each match a different emotion. And when you scan them, they you can pull up with augmented reality, their emotion, and they like show you more of their expression. And so it was mostly just examples for a student project that I had going and and they’re like, can you read a story about those? Because that would be a really nice tie in with social emotional learning. Yeah, I love it. It kind of brings it all together. Yeah. Two weeks later, I came back with the story of Peter meter. And it, it has some of these original robots in it. So if you like, hear the story, you’ll see that Peter activates different emotions on his emotion panel. And they’re named after my original robots that are on the wall behind me.


But yeah, so that’s how it all began. And it’s been a long journey. It’s been over nine months now. But my dream actually became augmented reality. Isn’t that incredible? Like you said, this is the stream that had been on your bucket list for what, like, super long time, and you made it happen, and you made it happen in I mean, you’re like, it was a labor of love for nine months, but you like you made it happen, because you put so much love and thought and creativity into it, I’m sure. So Peter in this story, he goes to school, and he’s a robot, and he’s in this robot world. But when I first sat down to illustrate it, or even to just imagine what that world looked like, I was going through a lot of like growing pains, I was stretching my brain, I was stuck. And I was uninspired to be honest. Because I, you know, as a teacher for 30 years, my classroom is not an inspirational, like, building, like it’s in cinder block. It’s low ceilings, the windows are, you know, kind of always closed.


Covered. Because if you open it up, it’s right to the playground, and it’s very distracting. And the kids, you know, just be at an hour, so it’s dark. And I, you know, so when I was thinking, Okay, what does this classroom look like? I immediately went to what my personal experience with classrooms looks like, and I was so uninspired. And then I just kind of had a revelation that, you know, why does it have to be like that anymore? You know, why don’t you just think bigger? Why don’t you imagine that? Peter lives in a place where they lavish resources on their robot children, and that the building is big and beautiful, and the windows are large. And, you know, there’s built in gadgets and plenty of resources for them to do their best learning. And so I was just so excited when I finally had that breakthrough. And I also was inspired by ideas that came out of retro futurism.


Kelsey  20:00

Which, if that’s not familiar, it’s Yeah, explain that one.


Tricia Fuglestad  20:05

So retro futurism is a super cool era in art where people have probably like the 50s and 60s, were imagining what the future look like. So when you see the art from retro futurism, you’re seeing things that look like the 50s and 60s, but have gadgets as if they’re futuristic. So it’s the Jetsons, it’s lost in space, you know, all that came out of retro futurism art. And so when I went into that place, in my imagination, it was just much more fun. And so there’s a little hint of it, you know, of actually, those things that inspired me show up in little hints in that book as well. Yeah. I love how you’re able to, like break through that, like you said, you weren’t feeling inspired. You were kind of like, oh, but you’re like, I have to do this, you know, I’ve signed this contract. And you were able to, like, you’re able to, like, you know, get awareness of that you’re like, oh, okay, I need to figure out what is it needed to do. And I just love hearing kind of everybody’s stories behind writing their book are doing whatever big thing they’re doing, because there’s always so much behind the scenes. Yes, absolutely. And I could tell you stories about every illustration, everything, because I really just soaked in to every page. And I had, I felt like I had a lot of time to dream and think and, and make everything intentional. So there are stories throughout the love to tell Sunday, I don’t want to


take up all of your time with all my stories. But well, I can’t wait to hear them all, we’ll probably have to talk about some of them another time too. And actually, I would love to like, talk about other ways we can do that as well. Okay, yeah. And I feel like there was so much detail in the book, like all these little details, but I just saw from one read through. So I’m sure there are so many more in the stories behind them. Because, like even just the little fun details of there was at one point in the book near the beginning, where it was like the teacher hit the mute button or whatever. I just wanted to capture that moment when teachers felt that empowerment from from remote learning, we all used to joke like, oh my gosh, I wish we still had that mute button, because that was so powerful. And so I definitely wanted to memorialize that in this story. I just loved it. Yeah, I’m glad you picked up on that. So sometimes the little things are picked up by the adults and sometimes the funniest little things in check the children. But like, for example, I had a lot of fun trying to figure out what recess look like for robots. And I was thinking that not all of the robots can climb stairs or anything, because some of them are on wheels. And so that meant that we’re going to need some sort of universal design for like robots live in a place where if you are on wheels, if you like, use wheels to get around, it’s perfectly fine for you, you know, you never have to worry about stairs, and you have obstacles. And so that just made me really happy just thinking about a space where everybody gets to play, no matter what. I love that so much. And that’s what we like, I mean, obviously want for our students as well. So it was cool to really envision like, what would it look like if it were perfect? For everybody? Yes. And so I asked them to envision like what is the backstory on every single character, and so that match their name in some way, and then also matched how it played out in the story. And I’m hoping that that sets me up for a series maybe, you know, like, each one of those days, each one of those nine characters might have their own little story one day and this is a foundation book for that. I love it and I do feel like you created something unique and it totally lends itself to that. So that would be awesome if it becomes a series I would love to see that and I feel like we’ve talked a lot about what makes Peter a leader different like it really is different than really anything out there like you mentioned but is there anything else that you want to mention that makes Peter Oh meter different than the other kids books that might teach about like steam or SEL but what makes Peter Oh meter unique? So I’m so glad you asked because this is I’m trying to think if there’s a book like this, but as far as I know, this is it, like so the book is powered by quiver vision, and so they make the augmented reality piece happen. But they they did two kinds of augmented reality for me. So one is that 3d model of Peter


that comes out for the coloring page that’s in the book. And it’s also in the activity packet, which we could talk about later. But the 3d model pulls up the character, Peter, and then it’s interactive. So you can explore his six buttons on his emotion panel, and see what happens to him when you click them because his face will change, music book play that matches that emotion, and an animation plays and shows color. And in his panel, so he can cycle through six different emotions. And I think that’s super important for kids to see what happens to a face when it’s expressing an emotion and then be able to identify it, and also connect it with music and color at the same time. So that 3d model isn’t a unique experience. But then the 2d animation is,


goes back to my foundation, like I like to make art and make art moves. So I illustrated all the pages, and then I animated all the pages. And because the animation is a perfectly lined up, design that matches the page, when you scan it, and makes the page looks like it’s just coming to life. And so I set up like 32 instances in the book. And I think that number 32 also includes the book plate, if you get a signed book plate from me, that also comes to life, there’s more augmented reality in the activity packet. And the activity packet is free for anybody like today, you can go to the teacher goals website, download it, and you can explore that coloring page with a 3d model. And so there’s augmented reality games you can play in there, there’s an augmented reality color wheel, they say you can color the color wheel, and then you can watch it come to life. And as an art teacher, I definitely wanted to have lots of art in that activity packet. And then there’s a charade game. So you could like where you can dress up as, as Peter meter. And then you can do a Shrade game with an augmented reality emotion panel that comes to life that you can wear. And then you can do some guessing back and forth on what is my emotion, like as if you’re Peter, and then you can practice expressing an emotion with your friends. That is so cool. So cool. You have this packet and that anybody can Yeah, definitely go ahead and download it. And we will add the link to the show notes. So everybody can go and download that. So they can enjoy all those activities, I guess. And we already kind of started talking about this, but How can teachers use the book for steam and SEL in their classrooms, so that connections in the book that connecting to each part of the acronym of steam, and then social emotional learning is embedded throughout. So there is a time in the story where the robots gather at recess, and they create a circuit, actually, that they play a game called circuit maker. So that kind of introduces the idea of a circuit. And then in the activity packet, there’s an actual circuit template that you can download and


go through the steps of creating a little laid up circuit experience. And then


Kelsey  5:59

Okay, welcome to the podcast. Trisha, we are so excited to have you here on wife, teacher, mommy the podcast, and to celebrate the fact that you just launched your new incredible children’s book, Peter o meter. So welcome.


Tricia Fuglestad  6:12

Thank you so much. It’s wonderful to be here. So excited.


Kelsey  6:16

Yeah, I’m really excited to have you I love when I get to have authors here on the show. It’s a lot of fun, especially children’s book authors, I think you’re only the second or third have had on the show so far. So this is like so fun. I love when we get to chat about your book, like our listeners get to hear kind of the behind the scenes about it. And also just what we can learn from it. Like to teach about social emotional learning, or STEM or all the different ways we can use the book to teach so excited to chat about that. Wow, I’m an


Tricia Fuglestad  6:43

elementary art teacher. And so I use books all the time with my lessons and my students. So I designed this book with that in mind thinking How would a teacher or a parent use this for for instruction with their students? Like, what can they glean here? So I tried to make it obvious, you know, but but not to.


science is so embedded throughout because we use words like the vocabulary of science throughout. And so we even talk about, like the properties of metal that kind of shows up and there’s like a little bit of a quiz at the back like discussion questions in. If you scan that quiz at the back with the QR code, you can get all the answers. They show up in augmented reality. So So technology is definitely there is animation throughout the whole story. There’s augmented reality, the E for engineering, you can think about the universal design of the illustrations. There’s a universal design challenge in the packet. Art there’s, there’s a drawing of a robot game in the packet. There’s the color wheel that we talked about. And then there’s coloring pages. Here’s like all the robots you can color them. And then math there’s there’s a there’s a math challenge in this story. And then if you draw rope, the robots you will be using geometry because they’re all made out of shapes. So I also like would do a draw I have a draw A long lesson that is on YouTube where I practiced it. And I lead my audience through all the steps for drying the robot and reinforcing vocabulary terms for geometry. So there’s so many ways to connect.


Kelsey  30:17

This was so cool. I feel like this wasn’t just writing a book, this was like creating like an experience with like, being able to teach it in so many different angles in so many different ways. Like, I’m really impressed hearing about all the different connections in just one children’s book, like, it’s pretty incredible. And how much thought must have gone into all that?


Tricia Fuglestad  30:40

Yes, and so I am super excited. And I’m really, I just feel like if teachers could take a moment to see what the potential is that they would love this book and find ways to use it. So um, so it only just launched, but I’m starting to see on social media people sharing back with me how they’re using it with their students, or their children. And so I just saw from a teacher in Indiana, he just introduced Peter to his kindergarteners and he has these adorable little photos. And I just shared this on social media of the kids colored their robot on the coloring page. And they pulled up Peter reader, and then they posed and tried to match his expression. And so they took a picture of the model. And it was so cute. And then I just checked my social media a couple hours ago, and I saw that they used Peter meter as a way to check in with their students and find out how they’re feeling. And they post with their children. And this is in Scotland. So I got a class set of photos of kids posing or using with their Peter meter model and showing me their feelings. So yes, I just made a drag and drop game. Um, so you can like, do a check in really quick with your students. So it’s like a blink robot. So like no expression on the face? And then you can drag an expression that matches how you’re feeling today.


Kelsey  32:19

Yeah, because one thing we’ve been talking about a lot, like even with my members, inside wife, teacher, mommy club is like, we talked about even ourselves as adults, a lot of us like, you know, need to, you know, step back and think, Okay, what am I feeling right now to process everything we’re going through, but also how do we teach our kids how to do that. And this is a great way to do that, to be able to, like help them connect, like how they’re, what they’re feeling in their body to like, their emotion.


Tricia Fuglestad  32:43

Yes. And that is also a big piece of it. Like, every time that Peter in the story is asking, you know, what button should I push? It’s because there is he’s sensing there’s something going on in his body. And so there’s clues in the story. And so it’s a parallel existence. You know, like, when things are happening in a robot body, it might look a little different than when you’re in a human body, like revving up and gear shifting, and but those are idioms and words that we might use to happen to their own body.


Kelsey  33:23

And I loved the language you use, because like, yeah, it is talking about like robot, but like, they do still, in a way describe how we would feel to just like you said, like, one quote that you had in the book, though, that I pulled out, like, as soon as I read it, I was like, Oh, I love this. And it was Peters mom, I believe. And he said, Let the feelings you feel today act as your guide. And I loved that. I’m like, yeah, like, you know, actually pay attention to those feelings. I just thought that was a great quote. I’m like, Oh, that is like a quotable right there. Tell me a little bit about that.


Tricia Fuglestad  33:51

Well, I was thinking about, it kind of goes back to a lesson that I do with my students called the animated glow, where I had them animate a symbol that represented the feeling that they had. So like, it might be a heart, or it might be flames are just something very simple. These are first graders. And then we made a robot. And then we made the robot on paper, and laid our paper over the glowing animation on our iPad. So we can see the animation through the paper. And when we did that, what we were trying to show is that, I guess is that a metaphor I’m looking for but I was trying to show that it’s okay to show the feelings that you have inside. So the pipe, you know, the animation was coming from the iPad. So we’ve got, you know, the art, the animations that we’ve got this transitional thing that’s It’s not as cool factor, it’s, it’s okay to show your feelings. And then we use our words to say how our robot is feeling, which again is like parallel, you know, it’s a robot that feels this way, but we know it’s really, you know, you’ve picked that emotion, etc. But, um, it’s okay to, to, to show your feelings in that scene where the mom says, you know, let your emotions be your guide, or let your feelings be your guide, you’ll see that every time Peter has emotions, he has to make a decision at some point, you know, what triggered that emotion. But he goes into action after that emotion, and it’s not a bad thing to have those feelings. And you’ll see he like, actually make good choices. You know,


Kelsey  35:54

I think you could read the book and every single time like, I read it with my kids. But like I mentioned before, like, I didn’t quite figure out the augmented reality part yet. So I’m going to on my list, we’re going to do that right away. But I feel like with how many different connections you’ve made, like we could tell the whole story, and yet everybody could come read the book another time and discover something new, because you’ve created so many different angles and ways to teach with it that? Yeah, I just think that’s really cool.


Tricia Fuglestad  36:19

Yeah, I mean, I was just thinking about, like, what is the best way to introduce this story to children? I haven’t figured that out yet. You know, like, do you just read it playing without augmented reality, and then go back and get a new experience with augmented reality? There’s that and then, if I were doing an author visit a virtual author visit, I would be sharing it in a different way, because I have an animated version of it. So it would be coming to life differently. As I tell the story, so what would that feel like compared to like, all these different ways we could dive in? And then there’s, um, I’m going to just put this out into the universe novel of fact, like, what if novel effect decided to do a soundscape? Do you know, novel effect? Do you know what that’s about? I


Kelsey  37:12

don’t know. Oh, okay.


Tricia Fuglestad  37:14

All right, I have to explain because NABBA effect is so magical. It’s a, it’s an app company that takes your children’s back, and makes a soundscape to it. And so a soundscape would be like all of the music, the background noise that you know, just the, the sound, or you know, sound effects that go with your book. And then when you and then it’s voice activated. So when you have the app open, and you’re reading it, it goes along with you, it knows where you are in the story, and it pulls up the cracked audio for your background. So it’s very magical way to read a story. And so you have to subscribe. And once you subscribe, you have access to all of its catalogue of stories, and you can just pull the book off your shelf, it might already be in there. And then you could have that read aloud, read aloud experience with that immersive soundscape, which is super exciting, and a totally different way to experience with EQ. So I just put that out into the universe. One day, maybe one day,


Kelsey  38:25

yes, you’re putting it out there. So I believe I believe, right? Yes, I love it. Well, this has been amazing. And I feel like I’ve already learned so many things. Tell us a little bit about how our listeners can connect with you if they listen to this podcast. And they’re like, oh, I want to learn more about Peter Oh meter or where they can grab the book, all the things that you want them to know.


Tricia Fuglestad  38:46

Hey, so I am on social media I live in place. So I’m Trisha fuchal, stad on Twitter, I’m fuchal fun on Instagram, I’m on LinkedIn. And also, I have a website fuchal And if you want to find Peter and reader, I link to everything on all my social media, but you could just go to teacher goals and find that their page is and I recommend that you do that because that’s where you can find the activity packet. So teacher go find Peter meter, and then download that free activity packet and you’re gonna be set for a long time. There’s 53 pages of so much good stuff. And then Peter meter is for sale and Amazon and all those other places like Barnes and Noble and as if I’m an official person that makes money


Kelsey  39:48

you are an official person, not as if you are an official person. So


Tricia Fuglestad  39:53

and transitioning into that that still is like very surreal to see your name on a book. Yeah.


Kelsey  40:00

It’s so cool. It’s such an accomplishment. So congratulations and everybody listening, make sure to grab your copy a pedo meter I definitely recommend it. It’s such an adorable and fascinating book and be sure to grab that activity pack as well. Okay, anything else you would like to share with where people can connect with you on socials or anything?


Tricia Fuglestad  40:19

I’m good for you go find out can the lb for the E and then you’ll be fine.


Kelsey  40:25

Perfect. Thank you so much for your time. This was so much fun


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